the only way to fix education is school vouchers. so to me, they are both an example of, in the london school of economics professor, talking about the tinkerers, the people who see the economy as a great big engine and they are going to go in with screw drivers and tirvegger and fine-tune. it i am afraid the democrats are guilty of haand the republicans are there. they have different constituencies they are trying to support. >> greta: all right. if we were talking a year from now and assume two hypothetical, first one, president obama is re-elected. second one, governor romney wins. a year from now, are you -- which presidency is going to likely -- are you likely to hire more people under? >> well that's a tough one because -- i think the right way to understand this is, you go to a dentist and you say, i have a tooth ache. he gives you novacane and you say, no, no, i have a cavity. you have a root canal. he gaves novacane. it's okay. but at some point, have you to if i can the problem. george bush started it. barack obama has give